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    Last year in Nov, I made an AMD APU rig with the following config:

    Mobo+CPU Gigabyte E350N Motherboard 4100
    Cabinet Cooler Master Elite 310 Cabinet (Red) 1400
    SMPS Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2UK 430 Watts PSU 2703
    HDD 500 GB WD Cavier Blue 3300
    RAM Kingston ValueRAM DDR3 2 GB (KVR1333D3N9/2G) x 2 1156
    ODD Samsung DVD Writer 900

    Now I am upgrading to Haswell processor. So, I bought an Intel Core i5 4570 processor from Amazon about a week ago, but so far unable to decide on what motherboard to use it with.

    Apart from the Mobo Combo, I am planning to use every other component, from above configuration. I may even built another configuration specially for the mobo combo which would be left spare with me after haswell upgrade (as planned).

    I am shortlisted these mobo's according to preference:
    ASRock H87 Pro4 Motherboard
    Gigabyte H87M-D3H Motherboard
    MSI H87M-G43 Motherboard
    Intel DH87RL 4th Generation Motherboard

    Now I selected only H87 chipset based mobo's since according to my research, its the best balance between performance and VFM. Core i5 4570 is not an unlocked processor, so I don't need a mobo which would help me to overclock, neither I plan to. I am not a pro gamer, so won't need to do crossfire.

    I did go out to get the mobo this saturday, but to my dismay I found no vendor kept the H87 mobo's except that of Intel, which was the last on my list. So I refrained to buy, and thought to ask fellow digitians before I try to buy it from Nehru place next saturday.

    I have the following doubts:
    1. Does B85 and H87 really makes much of a difference? And what will I loose if I don't get H87 and get B85 instead.
    2. How much difference does an ATX mobo really makes from a micro ATX one, for a basic gamer.
    3. What other mobo's can I put in the list and what should be the order, since it seems availability of the mobos are scarce. (even out of stock on FK).
    4. Should I care about getting a thermal paste, before I install the processor to mobo?
    5. Should I care about getting new SMPS. I think no, since I am not adding a dGPU anytime soon.

    Please suggest.
    Spec sheet: HP Pavillion 22XW Monitor (1080p) | Cooler Master E350N | WD 1 TB WD Blue | Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2UK 430 Watts PSU | Intel 3.2 GHz 4570 i5 (LGA 1150) | G.Skill DDR3 12 GB RAM | MSI H87M-G43 Mobo | MSI RX 480 4 GB GPU | Moto X 1st Gen | Nexus 7.

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    General Re: Best mobo for Haswell processor (i5 4570) around 7k for my needs

    try to get asus H87M-E but honestly speaking for a haswell cpu the choice of motherboard does not matters much be it b85/h87/z87 for a cpu like i5 4570 .. so depending on the I/O ports and expansion slots you cn even stick with a good b85 board.
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    General Re: Best mobo for Haswell processor (i5 4570) around 7k for my needs

    Quote Originally Posted by topgear View Post
    try to get asus H87M-E but honestly speaking for a haswell cpu the choice of motherboard does not matters much be it b85/h87/z87 for a cpu like i5 4570 .. so depending on the I/O ports and expansion slots you cn even stick with a good b85 board.
    You mean ASUS right? H87M-E - Motherboards - ASUS Which is around 8k.

    Choosing becomes harder when we have got many mobos with almost same calibre. For eg, if brand doesn't matter much for H87 then, I would try to find one with best *looking* UEFI BIOS.

    And what about other queries?
    Spec sheet: HP Pavillion 22XW Monitor (1080p) | Cooler Master E350N | WD 1 TB WD Blue | Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2UK 430 Watts PSU | Intel 3.2 GHz 4570 i5 (LGA 1150) | G.Skill DDR3 12 GB RAM | MSI H87M-G43 Mobo | MSI RX 480 4 GB GPU | Moto X 1st Gen | Nexus 7.

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    General Re: Best mobo for Haswell processor (i5 4570) around 7k for my needs

    as for other quesries :

    1. you can go with a B85 motherboard.
    2. If you don't need all those extra expansion slot matx board is really good.
    3. Same as above .. look at the features/IO ports/ exapnsion slots that you need and yes of-course coolest looking UEFI
    4. The cpu cooler comes with TiM pre applied but for many haswell cpu overheats so if you can invest in a better cooler like CM Hyper TX3 evo @ 1.5k.
    5. Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2UK is more than enough even if you add a discrete gpu later.
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    General Re: Best mobo for Haswell processor (i5 4570) around 7k for my needs

    Looks like I will be getting an mATX, if I don't get the ATX one.

    Problem with looking for best UEFI is that even boards from same brand have different BIOS interface. So its hard to get the correct information. (I think product page should also list a screenshot of the BIOS. )
    If TIM is already applied, I will be using the stock cooler for this winter. Planning to get CM Hyper TX3, around March when temperature will soar again.
    And yes, CM430CXV2 should do it. Although I don't think it will support the low power state provided by haswell chips.

    I still have to make a *list*. So that it's easier for me to decide on the next preference, if the mobo of my choice is not available. I don't want to buy anything based on *seller's suggestion*. lol.
    Spec sheet: HP Pavillion 22XW Monitor (1080p) | Cooler Master E350N | WD 1 TB WD Blue | Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2UK 430 Watts PSU | Intel 3.2 GHz 4570 i5 (LGA 1150) | G.Skill DDR3 12 GB RAM | MSI H87M-G43 Mobo | MSI RX 480 4 GB GPU | Moto X 1st Gen | Nexus 7.

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    General Re: Best mobo for Haswell processor (i5 4570) around 7k for my needs

    cx430 is still listed as under testing but here's a cheap workaround by CM

    Cooler Master also proposes a workaround for PSUs that may lack support:

    Should customers experience problems nevertheless, or would like to enable the advanced power saving mode on older power supplies that might not support it, there is a simple fix. Simply adding a single silent case fan to the system, connected to the power supply, should provide enough additional load to keep the system running in advanced power saving mode. The only disadvantage would be that power savings in idle mode on such a system would only surmount to around 2-3W instead of ~5W.
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    General Re: Best mobo for Haswell processor (i5 4570) around 7k for my needs

    Quote Originally Posted by Vyom View Post
    Looks like I will be getting an mATX, if I don't get the ATX one.

    Problem with looking for best UEFI is that even boards from same brand have different BIOS interface. So its hard to get the correct information. (I think product page should also list a screenshot of the BIOS. )

    And yes, CM430CXV2 should do it. Although I don't think it will support the low power state provided by haswell chips.
    all haswell motherboards comes with the sleeps states s6/s7 disabled. So no worries for corsair cx 430v2 psu.
    I dont think you will be on a uefi for a whole day when using your computer .
    Do or Do not. There is no try :)

    http://www.digit.in/forum/reviews/181632-antec-a40-cpu-cooler-review.html

    http://www.digit.in/forum/power-supply-cabinets-mods/184285-psu-suggestion-list.html

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    General Re: Best mobo for Haswell processor (i5 4570) around 7k for my needs

    Topgear, thanks for the tip. May try that.

    Quote Originally Posted by rijinpk1 View Post
    I dont think you will be on a uefi for a whole day when using your computer .
    Of course not. But it would be cool to boast ..
    Besides, with recent BIOS coming with a browser, I may not even need to log into OS, if I just need to do some casual surfing.

    So is this list ok? According to the preference:

    ASRock H87 Pro4 Motherboard
    H87M-E - Motherboards - ASUS
    Gigabyte H87M-D3H Motherboard
    MSI H87M-G43 Motherboard
    Intel DH87RL 4th Generation Motherboard
    Spec sheet: HP Pavillion 22XW Monitor (1080p) | Cooler Master E350N | WD 1 TB WD Blue | Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2UK 430 Watts PSU | Intel 3.2 GHz 4570 i5 (LGA 1150) | G.Skill DDR3 12 GB RAM | MSI H87M-G43 Mobo | MSI RX 480 4 GB GPU | Moto X 1st Gen | Nexus 7.

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    General Re: Best mobo for Haswell processor (i5 4570) around 7k for my needs

    have a look at this as well : Link and if you can avoid MSI and asrock.
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    General Re: Best mobo for Haswell processor (i5 4570) around 7k for my needs

    Well, I am not upgrading to B85 based mobo. Partly because, B85 and H87 don't have much difference in price.
    I want the best VFM mobo for what is to be my *big* upgrade. And H87 in the range of 7-8k I think is the sweet spot.

    So here are my choices in the order I will prefer:

    ASRock H87 Pro4 Motherboard
    MSI H87M-G43 Motherboard
    H87M-E - Motherboards - ASUS
    Gigabyte H87M-D3H Motherboard

    Thrown out Intel one. Might go out to buy one today itself.
    Spec sheet: HP Pavillion 22XW Monitor (1080p) | Cooler Master E350N | WD 1 TB WD Blue | Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2UK 430 Watts PSU | Intel 3.2 GHz 4570 i5 (LGA 1150) | G.Skill DDR3 12 GB RAM | MSI H87M-G43 Mobo | MSI RX 480 4 GB GPU | Moto X 1st Gen | Nexus 7.

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