[Ordered] Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: ~15k [Ordered] Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: ~15k
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    Cool [Ordered] Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: ~15k

    I upgraded from a Pen 4 PC after 7 years. Now am using a Core i5 4570 PC since 3 years. And been gaming on integrated graphics ever since. I was not much of a gamer, but since Jan 2016 Rocket League have consumed my life. It have made me a gamer again. And with the advent of other games like Remastered version of Bioshock, my PC is hungry for a dGPU.

    I don't get more than 40 fps on Rocket league on lowest settings and I think it is affecting my game play. I am also not able to play racing games like The Crew. So I think I should really give my PC what it deserves.

    Following is my PC Specs:

    Processor Intel 3.2 GHz LGA 1150 4570 i5 4th Gen
    Motherboard MSI H87M-G43
    HDD 1 TB WD Blue
    RAM G.Skill DDR3 4 GB X 2 and
    G.Skill DDR3 8 GB X 1
    Cabinet Cooler Master E350N
    PSU Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2UK 430 Watts PSU
    Monitor HP Pavillion 22XW Monitor (1080p)
    Optical Drive Samsung DVD Combo
    Keyboard & Mouse TVS-E Gold Bharat & Logitech G90
    Headphone Philips SHP2000
    UPS Microtek
    Controller XBox 360 Wired Controller


    Games I want to play with the gfx and in near future:
    1. Rocket League
    2. Bioshock Remastered
    3. Need for Speed games
    4. Trackmania Canyon/Valley
    5. GTA V (in future)
    6. Mafia III
    7. Mirror's Edge 2
    8. Deus Ex: Human
    9. Quantum Break
    10. Project Cars

    Games I totally not play:
    FPS games like CS, DOTA, TF etc...

    My requirement:
    1080p gaming on atleast 60 fps

    Budget:
    Around Rs 15K, and as low as possible. I have been a gamer on PC without a GPU since a decade now. And I never felt the need of a GFX since I don't play a graphics intensive game.

    Questions:
    Before I decide or buy a GPU tho, I really need answers to following questions (some noob some genuine). I hope friends here can try to answer as many as of them.

    1. Is it a right time to buy a GFX? Is something better going to be released in next one month?
    2. Which GFX is best for the list of games I require to play?
    3. How much VRAM would be sufficient for the game list above. (With and without GTA V, since that game alone I think is very demanding.
    4. Does a GFX help in encoding videos too? And Video conversions when I am not gaming?
    5. Does a processor's integrated graphics part is freed to do work of CPU when the graphics load is offloaded to a dGPU?
    6. Can I buy a GFX from US, if I can arrange for someone to bring it for me (since I also have some Amazon credits). Is warranty an issue?
    7. Will my PSU be able to handle the load of a GPU considering the PSU is currently supplying power to: Mobo, 3 sticks of DDR3 RAM, 1 TB HDD, DVD ROM drive, a USB3.0 eHDD, Mic, 2.0 speakers and a couple of USB devices.


    Until my research until now, I have come up with this GFX: Amazon.in: Buy MSI GAMING RX 470 GDDR5 4GB CrossFire VR Ready FinFET DirectX 12 Graphics Card (Radeon RX 470 GAMING X 4G) Online at Low Prices in India | MSI Reviews & Rating
    The design is cool (with bold RED), I have MSI botherboard too and 4 GB VRAM seems sufficient.
    Spec sheet: HP Pavillion 22XW Monitor (1080p) | Cooler Master E350N | WD 1 TB WD Blue | Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2UK 430 Watts PSU | Intel 3.2 GHz 4570 i5 (LGA 1150) | G.Skill DDR3 12 GB RAM | MSI H87M-G43 Mobo | MSI RX 480 4 GB GPU | Moto X 1st Gen | Nexus 7.

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    General Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

    RX 470 is perfect for your budget and also will last a long time for 1080p gaming for the titles you mentioned

    Edit:There is also 1060 3GB but that isn't future proof cause of the low vram

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    General Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

    Also to answer your questions
    1.Yes for your budget
    2.Rx 470
    3.4GB is more than enough for 1080p gaming especially racing games
    4.Yes but CPU conversation is better anyways
    5.No
    6.Depends on manufacturer.Some have international warranties some don't
    7.Yes

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    General Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

    5. Does a processor's integrated graphics part is freed to do work of CPU when the graphics load is offloaded to a dGPU?
    A. No. as far as I know, a GPU can handle only graphics related computations, it will not handle other works of CPU. I do not know what a iGPU does while one is gaming on dGPU but it will not handle any execution which isn't related to the game's graphics.

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    Also, Checkout the size of the card too, see if it will fit in your cabinet. That MSI RX470 is big as per reviews

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    General Re: Card for my i5-4570 PC, Games: RL, GTA V, Racing games, Bioshock Remaster, Budget: Below ~15k

    Well, thanks for quick (and short) answers to my questions @ZTR .
    @TheSloth : So that means the iGPU (HD 4600) will goto waste when I use a dGPU.

    This brings me other questions:

    1. Can I use a monitor with GPU's HDMI and another monitor with Mobo's VGA? Actual question is whether I can use both iGPU and dGPU together on different monitors? I don't know why I would want to do that, but I am curious.
    2. The card on Amazon (link) is not covered under warranty (top comment also confirms this). Is there any reliable online store where I can get this card with warranty and cheapest?
    SMC International website says coming soon.
    Spec sheet: HP Pavillion 22XW Monitor (1080p) | Cooler Master E350N | WD 1 TB WD Blue | Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2UK 430 Watts PSU | Intel 3.2 GHz 4570 i5 (LGA 1150) | G.Skill DDR3 12 GB RAM | MSI H87M-G43 Mobo | MSI RX 480 4 GB GPU | Moto X 1st Gen | Nexus 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyom View Post
    Well, thanks for quick (and short) answers to my questions @ZTR .
    @TheSloth : So that means the iGPU (HD 4600) will goto waste when I use a dGPU.

    This brings me other questions:

    1. Can I use a monitor with GPU's HDMI and another monitor with Mobo's VGA? Actual question is whether I can use both iGPU and dGPU together on different monitors? I don't know why I would want to do that, but I am curious.
    2. The card on Amazon (link) is not covered under warranty (top comment also confirms this). Is there any reliable online store where I can get this card with warranty and cheapest?
    SMC International website says coming soon.
    Yes, you can use both engines at a time.
    There's a feature in BIOS known as multi-monitor support IGD, enable this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrishi View Post
    Yes, you can use both engines at a time.
    There's a feature in BIOS known as multi-monitor support IGD, enable this.
    Wow. I never knew it was possible. Offloading the graphics to two different graphics chip seems to be quite a smart idea. I don't know much practical usage, but I guess I will be able to run game on primary monitor using dGPU and can also show my desktop on another monitor via Integrated iGPU, at the same time. Right?

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    It's close to 20k. Which brings me to basic question: Do I really need a GPU with such cost?
    How will be an RX 460 comparison to 470 for the games I want to play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyom View Post
    Wow. I never knew it was possible. Offloading the graphics to two different graphics chip seems to be quite a smart idea. I don't know much practical usage, but I guess I will be able to run game on primary monitor using dGPU and can also show my desktop on another monitor via Integrated iGPU, at the same time. Right?

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    It's close to 20k. Which brings me to basic question: Do I really need a GPU with such cost?
    How will be an RX 460 comparison to 470 for the games I want to play?
    That load balancing cross GPUs isn't really needed. The dGPU can alone handle everything.

    RX460 is way weaker than RX470. You're better off buying a used GTX960 rather than a 460.
    IMO, it's the right time to buy a GPU and if you can spend anywhere around 15-16k then you're better off buying an RX470 or else a GTX1060 3GB.
    Both are beastly GPU that will do very well at 1080p. The nVidia card will perform much better than RX470 in old and pretty much every current game, however AMD will be more future proof due to 25% higher vRAM and long term support from AMD. It's a tradeoff tbh, if you aren't planning to change cards anytime in next 2-3yrs then better buy the RX470.

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