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View Poll Results: Launch of Trinity seems far but buying a PC is a necessity. I want 2 PC's. What should I do?

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  • Buy a low budget PC and wait for Trinity (which would be my primary PC later)

    6 18.75%
  • Forget Trinity. Buy an Intel rig now, and upgrade to GFX next month.

    19 59.38%
  • Call up the repair guy, repair my Pen 4, and wait for Trinity.

    7 21.88%
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    Cool New PC in 7 years!! :D Help needed to finalize a config.

    Moving on from Pen 4.. Finally!!
    Here's the questionnaire

    1. What is the purpose of the computer?
    Ans: List of work I do in the order of priority (high to low)

    a. Programming in Visual Studio 2010 and SQL Server 2008
    b. Watching high quality (720p, 1080p) videos
    c. Editing videos (using Adobe Premiere CS4 or Sony Vegas Pro)
    d. Occasional games, mostly racing like NFS and types (not a gamer)


    2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
    Ans: Rs 20,000.
    I am on an incremental budget. Which for all purpose and intents means I can’t spend in one go. I can wait to buy some components in subsequent months. But to assemble a primary PC, I can shell < Rs 20k this month.

    3. Planning to overclock?
    Ans: Been using Pen 4 for 7 years. So, I am accustomed to native clocks. Plus don’t think overclocking is a good idea, since it involves doing something a processor is not meant to do.

    4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
    Ans: Windows 7 with two or more linux distros (like Ubuntu and Arch)

    5. How much hard drive space is needed?
    Ans: 500 GB is sufficient, since I don’t trust internal HDD’s anymore. (Have bad experiences).

    6. Do you want to buy a monitor?
    Ans: No. I have Dell 19” monitor. Native resolution is 1440x900.

    7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
    Ans: Monitor, UPS (bought recently), Keyboard and mouse (will buy a good one later) and Speakers.

    8. When are you planning to buy the system?
    Ans: ASAP. Possibly before Diwali. Can’t wait no more for Trinity to arrive in India. :/

    9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
    Ans: Never built a desktop before. But have experience in unscrewing and putting back all components together from mobo.

    10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
    Ans: Delhi. Can buy from Nehru Place, or online if the difference is not much.

    11. Anything else which you would like to say?
    Ans: I was waiting for Trinity to arrive in India since 3 months now. But as others say it could take another two months. And even if it do arrive it would be costly. Wait is killing me. And since my Pen 4 got kaput yet again two days ago, I think I have enough of it. And am finally up to purchase old but proven components like Llano.
    I have worked on Pen 4 for seven years now against all kinds of mockery and abuses. So I think this jump will be quite substantial for me. And so even if I don’t get Trinity I think it still won’t matter to me much in terms of any noticeable difference.


    After a lot of research and discussions I have made following list:

    Component Model Price
    CPU AMD A8-3870K
    6678
    Mobo Gigabyte A55M-DS2
    3604
    SMPS Cooler Master CX430v2
    2450
    HDD WD Caviar Blue 500 GB HDD Internal Hard Drive (WD5000AAKX)
    3386
    RAM G.Skill RipjawsX DDR3 2 GB
    880
    Cabinet Cooler Master Elite 310 Cabinet (Red)
    2016
    Optical Drive Samsung 22x SATA DVD Writer
    950
    Total 19964
    Last edited by Vyom; 03-11-2012 at 11:13 PM.
    Spec sheet: HP Pavillion 22XW Monitor (1080p) | Cooler Master E350N | WD 1 TB WD Blue | Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2UK 430 Watts PSU | Intel 3.2 GHz 4570 i5 (LGA 1150) | G.Skill DDR3 12 GB RAM | MSI H87M-G43 Mobo | MSI RX 480 4 GB GPU | Moto X 1st Gen | Nexus 7.

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    General Re: New PC in 7 years!! :D Help needed to finalize a config.

    Looks good to me. Don't buy from flipkart, their prices are sky high. Search more online sites like SMC, Primeabgb, THE ITWares, Deltapage etc. You'll get a lot cheaper.
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    General Re: New PC in 7 years!! :D Help needed to finalize a config.

    Actually, I consider prices from Flipkart to be upper bound. I quoted the same to keep in mind that it's the maximum I will have to spent! Of course I would first try to buy locally!
    Spec sheet: HP Pavillion 22XW Monitor (1080p) | Cooler Master E350N | WD 1 TB WD Blue | Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2UK 430 Watts PSU | Intel 3.2 GHz 4570 i5 (LGA 1150) | G.Skill DDR3 12 GB RAM | MSI H87M-G43 Mobo | MSI RX 480 4 GB GPU | Moto X 1st Gen | Nexus 7.

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    General Re: New PC in 7 years!! :D Help needed to finalize a config.

    wait for a few days...trinity is about to launch in India
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    General Re: New PC in 7 years!! :D Help needed to finalize a config.

    Quote Originally Posted by sumonpathak View Post
    wait for a few days...trinity is about to launch in India
    I am hearing that for 3 months now... And please read the last para of my original post.
    Spec sheet: HP Pavillion 22XW Monitor (1080p) | Cooler Master E350N | WD 1 TB WD Blue | Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2UK 430 Watts PSU | Intel 3.2 GHz 4570 i5 (LGA 1150) | G.Skill DDR3 12 GB RAM | MSI H87M-G43 Mobo | MSI RX 480 4 GB GPU | Moto X 1st Gen | Nexus 7.

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    General Re: New PC in 7 years!! :D Help needed to finalize a config.

    I don't think your suggested config is up to the mark, here are the reasons:-

    1. AMD 1st gen APU or Llano has already reached their end of Life and they aren't compatible with newer APU or Trinity. So your upgrade path is actually closed.
    2. 2GB Ram is very less for any kind of video editing.

    Here is my suggestion:-
    AMD FX 6100 (6 Core, 3.2 GHz, Turbo up to 3.9 GHz) @ 7.2K
    Gigabyte 970A-DS3 @ 5.2K
    Forsa GT 620 1GB DDR3 @ 3.4K (From Flipkart.com)
    Corsair 4GB X 1 1333 MHz DDR3 @ 1.2K

    Rest are same as you selected. Now the total price is around 22.5K and believe me, for the extra 2.5K you're spending, you will get large boost in performance. A 6 Core CPU is always advantageous over lesser core models. Also 4GB Ram is well suited for most of the applications. Suggesting you a dedicated GPU which is almost as strong as the integrated Graphics in 3870K.
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    General Re: New PC in 7 years!! :D Help needed to finalize a config.

    in that case get a cheap FX setup...with llano you are purchasing an EOL product...
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    General Re: New PC in 7 years!! :D Help needed to finalize a config.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilus View Post
    I don't think your suggested config is up to the mark, here are the reasons:-

    1. AMD 1st gen APU or Llano has already reached their end of Life and they aren't compatible with newer APU or Trinity. So your upgrade path is actually closed.
    2. 2GB Ram is very less for any kind of video editing.

    Here is my suggestion:-
    AMD FX 6100 (6 Core, 3.2 GHz, Turbo up to 3.9 GHz) @ 7.2K
    Gigabyte 970A-DS3 @ 5.2K
    Forsa GT 620 1GB DDR3 @ 3.4K (From Flipkart.com)
    Corsair 4GB X 1 1333 MHz DDR3 @ 1.2K

    Rest are same as you selected. Now the total price is around 22.5K and believe me, for the extra 2.5K you're spending, you will get large boost in performance. A 6 Core CPU is always advantageous over lesser core models. Also 4GB Ram is well suited for most of the applications. Suggesting you a dedicated GPU which is almost as strong as the integrated Graphics in 3870K.
    Yes. You are absolutely right about Llano being at the end of line. I thought maybe A8-3870K is the next good thing after Trinity which is taking too much time to launch. So thanks for the suggestion.
    But as far as purchasing a new GFX is concerned, as I said, I am on a budget this month. Which doesn't mean I can't spend next month. So I think I will postpone components like GFX for later.
    Spec sheet: HP Pavillion 22XW Monitor (1080p) | Cooler Master E350N | WD 1 TB WD Blue | Corsair CMPSU-430CXV2UK 430 Watts PSU | Intel 3.2 GHz 4570 i5 (LGA 1150) | G.Skill DDR3 12 GB RAM | MSI H87M-G43 Mobo | MSI RX 480 4 GB GPU | Moto X 1st Gen | Nexus 7.

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    General Re: New PC in 7 years!! :D Help needed to finalize a config.

    next AMD CPU = new socket. next AMD APU = new socket. (same socket for both CPU and APU)
    next Intel CPU = new socket.

    GT 520 is not strong as HD 6550D in A8-3870K though.

    As far as future upgradability is concerned, pretty much every socket is a dead end at this point of time.
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    General Re: New PC in 7 years!! :D Help needed to finalize a config.

    ^^ Ico, I was referring to GT 620 which is a rebranded GT 430, not GT 520.

    Vyom, one thing, none of the AMD 9XX chipset come with Onboard Gfx. So you can't have display if you don't have a dedicated Gfx card.

    And regarding Socket Type, Ico, the problem is you can't find a powerful CPU which is capable enough for taking serious Audio/Video encoding and editing staff whereas in Bulldozer Platform, FX 6100 is already a capable CPU for its price. Also 3870K is the max you can get in llano platform whereas if you are going with Am3+ Path, there are plenty of upgrade path, the exiting FX 8120 and FX 8150 plus the Piledriver CPUs which is not even launched in India. So you are safe for at least couple of years in terms of availability pf higher end CPU in the same platform.
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